The All-Mighty Triforce and Shenanigans
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Re: The All-Mighty Triforce and Shenanigans
....one moment. I was just typing up a long answer and accidentally clicked the "home" button and jumped to google. Let me try that again...
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OKAY TAKE TWO *sighs*
Keep in mind that I am listing games I have either played or seen a large majority of people say are good starters.
A lot of people will say Ocarina of Time or A Link to the Past. These contain the "classic Zelda formula". All other games after these have drawn on these two games the most. Heck, Ocarina drew a lot on A Link to the Past, but since it is the first 3D Zelda and introduced a ton of people into the series because of how it changed the gaming world, it is regarded as the end all of all Zeldas, or something. OoT is on the N64 and 3DS, but is also on the virtual console. I don't recommend playing it on the Wii VC though...that's how I tried playing it and it was horrid. ALttP is on the SNES, I think? Also can be found on the Virtual Console. I've never played it, but I want to.
Skyward Sword, on the other hand, was kind of created to draw in new people. It feels pretty easy to someone like me who knows how Zelda feels, but it can be a fun new experience for those who dont. I have seen it work very well in drawing in new people. A family my family is friends with all started with Skyward Sword and have loved Zelda since. One of my sisters who doesn't play games as often as me or Valk actually beat Skyward Sword before I did. It is immersive and is good for and beginner. Keep in mind, however, that a lot of people have complained about the Motion Controls. I never had an big issue with them, maybe because we have and use the Wii Remote Plus attachment, but it is something to consider. SS is on the Wii.
I will always recommend Twilight Princess. It is how I started, and I feel it does a great job of introducing someone to the "Zelda feel" so often talked about. Now, the Zelda fan base (or maybe I should say the Ocarina fan boys) really seems to hate Twilight Princess, calling it a copy of Ocarina and blah blah blah. I don't really see their issue, as it is different enough from Ocarina in my opinion to easily consider it a different game, but whatever. I will admit that there are faults with TP, but my main problem with the game is the rather barren Overworld. It doesn't have as many towns/fun secrets to explore as Ocarina or Wind Waker would. TP is on the GameCube, Wii, and Wii U.
Speaking of Wind Waker, I think that would also be a good starter. It's fun, has enjoyable mechanics, and is pretty. It just isn't as memorable to me probably because I haven't finished it yet, and it is more quietly revered than Ocarina, which I also haven't finished. WW is on the GameCube and Wii U.
Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks were both great games that are never given enough credit. They are direct sequels to Wind Waker, but they can still stand alone. They are on the DS, though, so have a very different feel than the rest of the Zelda games I'd say. They're controlled with the stylus, rather than D-pad. I'm just throwing them out there. Not really great intros into Zelda, but fun nonetheless.
Keep in mind that I am listing games I have either played or seen a large majority of people say are good starters.
A lot of people will say Ocarina of Time or A Link to the Past. These contain the "classic Zelda formula". All other games after these have drawn on these two games the most. Heck, Ocarina drew a lot on A Link to the Past, but since it is the first 3D Zelda and introduced a ton of people into the series because of how it changed the gaming world, it is regarded as the end all of all Zeldas, or something. OoT is on the N64 and 3DS, but is also on the virtual console. I don't recommend playing it on the Wii VC though...that's how I tried playing it and it was horrid. ALttP is on the SNES, I think? Also can be found on the Virtual Console. I've never played it, but I want to.
Skyward Sword, on the other hand, was kind of created to draw in new people. It feels pretty easy to someone like me who knows how Zelda feels, but it can be a fun new experience for those who dont. I have seen it work very well in drawing in new people. A family my family is friends with all started with Skyward Sword and have loved Zelda since. One of my sisters who doesn't play games as often as me or Valk actually beat Skyward Sword before I did. It is immersive and is good for and beginner. Keep in mind, however, that a lot of people have complained about the Motion Controls. I never had an big issue with them, maybe because we have and use the Wii Remote Plus attachment, but it is something to consider. SS is on the Wii.
I will always recommend Twilight Princess. It is how I started, and I feel it does a great job of introducing someone to the "Zelda feel" so often talked about. Now, the Zelda fan base (or maybe I should say the Ocarina fan boys) really seems to hate Twilight Princess, calling it a copy of Ocarina and blah blah blah. I don't really see their issue, as it is different enough from Ocarina in my opinion to easily consider it a different game, but whatever. I will admit that there are faults with TP, but my main problem with the game is the rather barren Overworld. It doesn't have as many towns/fun secrets to explore as Ocarina or Wind Waker would. TP is on the GameCube, Wii, and Wii U.
Speaking of Wind Waker, I think that would also be a good starter. It's fun, has enjoyable mechanics, and is pretty. It just isn't as memorable to me probably because I haven't finished it yet, and it is more quietly revered than Ocarina, which I also haven't finished. WW is on the GameCube and Wii U.
Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks were both great games that are never given enough credit. They are direct sequels to Wind Waker, but they can still stand alone. They are on the DS, though, so have a very different feel than the rest of the Zelda games I'd say. They're controlled with the stylus, rather than D-pad. I'm just throwing them out there. Not really great intros into Zelda, but fun nonetheless.
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Wind Waker was where I started so that's where I'm biased, I don't really want to recommend LttP because I prefer 3D Zelda games to 2D, and I found the final boss a bit rough.
if you plan to play OOT or MM do NOT get it on virtual console. The controls handle horribly and it won't be a good experience. N64, GameCube or 3DS is the way to go (and just for anyone wondering, yes they are on Game Cube OOT through the Master Quest edition with comes with both regular and master quest and on the Zelda collectors edition which has OOT, MM, The Legend of Zelda, and Zelda II)
if you plan to play OOT or MM do NOT get it on virtual console. The controls handle horribly and it won't be a good experience. N64, GameCube or 3DS is the way to go (and just for anyone wondering, yes they are on Game Cube OOT through the Master Quest edition with comes with both regular and master quest and on the Zelda collectors edition which has OOT, MM, The Legend of Zelda, and Zelda II)
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(Keeps forgetting about that despite playing Majora's Mask on it) If I hadn't procrastinated so bad on that I totally would have played OoT on it. OTL
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I'll see what I can do. Thanks for all the advice guys! even you nopon
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- holy crap, botw looks way better on the switch:
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I beat Breath of the Wild today.
I wasn't sure about it going in--it looked fucking awesome, but at the same time, Zelda games never really appealed to me.
While it started off slow for me--I spent most of Switch launch day playing Shovel Knight 'cause the beginning was boring--it quickly became crazy addictive and I just. Couldn't. Put. It. Down. Easily one of the best games I've ever played.
And now I have a massive crush on Prince Sidon.
I wasn't sure about it going in--it looked fucking awesome, but at the same time, Zelda games never really appealed to me.
While it started off slow for me--I spent most of Switch launch day playing Shovel Knight 'cause the beginning was boring--it quickly became crazy addictive and I just. Couldn't. Put. It. Down. Easily one of the best games I've ever played.
And now I have a massive crush on Prince Sidon.
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Okay, either I'm dumb and never saw it, or there was no Sheikah Stone in Kokiri Forest in the original OoT to help people like me who had no clue where to find a sword. After trying this game at least a half a dozen times on emulation and failing to find a sword every time, I almost immediately found the sword in the 3D version just now.
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The Sheikah Stone is 100% new to OoT3D, made to help people with no idea what to do have an idea on what to do.
There are smaller ones that were in the original, which you had to use a certain mask to talk to, but they were...decidedly less useful.
There are smaller ones that were in the original, which you had to use a certain mask to talk to, but they were...decidedly less useful.
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but you can making them blast off
that's 100% useful what are you talking about
that's 100% useful what are you talking about
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I finally finished Breath of the Wild!
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- Honestly, I loved every hour I put into the game, but there were a few complaints I had. The voice acting, especially for the girls, was...pretty bad. Like, no one in the entire world talks like Zelda and Mipha do. And coming off of the badassness of Zelda in games like Wind Waker, BotW Zelda felt like Generic Love Interest #9. She was kind of just a very feminine stereotype more than anything. The dungeon designs were also kinda underwhelming and incredibly similar, same with the bosses, and the final fight/area is...kind of a joke, to be honest.
Like, apparently there were supposed to be Lynels or something at some point? And a whole bunch of other stuff? But the first time I went through Hyrule Castle I just climbed every surface I could, used Revali's Gale, and swam up waterfalls with the Zora Armor because I figured the castle itself was the dungeon and I had to get to it. So in the end, I got to the final boss room and only realized as the cutscene started that it was the final boss.
Then the fight actually started, and the whole thing where it cuts Ganon's HP in half if you have all the Divine Beasts tamed is neat! But honestly, I feel like it wouldn't even have been much of a challenge without that. The only part that stumped me was when he went invincible, because I'd never done a perfect guard before and you apparently have to do that or a flurry rush to break through his defenses. And the last phase is...really just kind of comical.
I actually ended up beating it three times in a row today because I forgot the last memory the first time, got the last memory but not the one Impa reveals to you the second time, and finally got the true ending the last time. The true ending was honestly pretty nice, though.
All of those are really small compared to how much fun I had exploring the world for over a hundred hours, though, so I definitely came out of the experience very happy! I do love the game, just hope they have more varied dungeons and bosses next time, because those were both what I loved most about other Zelda games. Puzzle solving, cool boss designs, and cool boss fights were what I lived for in the other games. Twilight Princess in particular was good at it.
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We have a lot of the same complaints.
I kind of wish they did a bit more with lore and story in the game because I have a bunch of questions about how "Calamity Ganon" works.
I kind of wish they did a bit more with lore and story in the game because I have a bunch of questions about how "Calamity Ganon" works.
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Yeah, that was really underwhelming. I mean, he [spoiltext]doesn't have any dialogue. He's hardly even a character. And what does "giving up reincarnation" mean and entail??[/spoiltext]
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